CROCLIST: juvenile alligators
s3binnig
croclist@lists.gatorhole.com
Fri, 29 Nov 2002 09:58:46 -0500
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Bill,
I made no comparison to wild alligators. I'm differentiating between seasonal cooling in captivity versus a constant growing season provided by increasing heat indoors. I don't heat her water, though she can bask daily in a warm spot. She goes off feed on her own for about 4-5 months. This certainly slows growth down versus the 12 month warm season I could provide by a constant warm environment.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Moss
To: croclist@lists.gatorhole.com
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 8:35 AM
Subject: RE: CROCLIST: juvenile alligators
Steve,
The thing about this that makes me go "hmmmm" is that the wild alligator sizes are achieved with a natural seasonal cool-down (versus a constant growing season). They make up for this by being able to achieve preferred body temperature in the warm season (mid to upper 80's F). Is yours kept cooler than optimum during the summer months as well?
Bill
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From: croclist-admin@lists.gatorhole.com [mailto:croclist-admin@lists.gatorhole.com] On Behalf Of s3binnig
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 10:43 PM
To: croclist@croclist.gatorhole.com
Subject: CROCLIST: juvenile alligators
Bryan,
I let my alligator cool down every winter in my basement. She goes off feed because her water temp is in the high 60's, although her basking spot is in the 80's. I find that it keeps her growth rate slow, and yet she stays robust and healthy. I wouldn't do it with a croc from a purely tropical environment, but with American alligators I've found it non-detrimental and it allows me to keep her much smaller than a constant growing season would.
Good Luck,
Steve
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bill,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I made no comparison to wild alligators. I'm
differentiating between seasonal cooling in captivity versus a constant
growing season provided by increasing heat indoors. I don't heat her water,
though she can bask daily in a warm spot. She goes off feed on her own for about
4-5 months. This certainly slows growth down versus the 12 month warm season I
could provide by a constant warm environment.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
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<A title=mngatorguy@msn.com href="mailto:mngatorguy@msn.com">Bill Moss</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=croclist@lists.gatorhole.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 29, 2002 8:35
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: CROCLIST: juvenile
alligators</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Steve,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The thing about this
that makes me go “<SPAN class=SpellE>hmmmm</SPAN>” is that the wild alligator
sizes are achieved with a natural seasonal cool-down (versus a constant
growing season). <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They make up for
this by being able to achieve preferred body temperature in the warm season
(mid to upper 80’s F). <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is
yours kept cooler than optimum during the summer months as
well?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bill<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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croclist-admin@lists.gatorhole.com [mailto:croclist-admin@lists.gatorhole.com]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>s3binnig<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Thursday, November 28, 2002 10:43 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
croclist@croclist.gatorhole.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> CROCLIST: juvenile
alligators</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bryan,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> I let my alligator
cool down every winter in my basement. She goes off feed because her water
temp is in the high 60's, although her basking spot is in the 80's. I find
that it keeps her growth rate slow, and yet she stays robust and healthy. I
wouldn't do it with a croc from a purely tropical environment, but with
American alligators I've found it non-detrimental and it allows me to keep her
much smaller than a constant growing season
would.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Good
Luck,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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