CROCLIST: USFWS to Reclassify Crocodylus acutus

Sun Apr 1 21:34:24 CEST 2007

Hi Steve,
Feel free to email me off list if you would like.  The USFWS has been
redesigning there website and its a little harder to navigate now, at least
its harder to find the special rule's.

The USFWS website is www.fws.gov

Animals listed in other Countries
http://ecos.fws.gov/tess_public/SpeciesReport.do?lead=10&listingType=L

Animals listed in the USA
http://ecos.fws.gov/tess_public/SpeciesReport.do?groups=C&listingType=L&mapstatus=1

USFWS Special Rule for: Yacare, Crocodilus and Fuscus
http://ecos.fws.gov/docs/federal_register/fr3626.pdf  This special rule
still requires ESA permit for import/export/interstate commerce of live
specimens.

USFWS Special Rule for: Porosus (Australia) and Niloticus
http://ecos.fws.gov/docs/federal_register/fr2968.pdf

I coulndt find the complete Special Rule for American Alligator, if you look
on https://ecos.fws.gov/speciesProfile/SpeciesReport.do?spcode=C000  you
will see there are many links and referances to the sprcial rule for this
species.

Best Regards,
Donny
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve" <s3binnig at comcast.net>
To: "The Crocodilian List" <croclist at lists.gatorhole.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: CROCLIST: USFWS to Reclassify Crocodylus acutus

> Donny,
>  Can you post the USFWS address where you are seeing the special rules?
> Also, may I email you off list? I keep my animals indoors too, here in PA,
> and I'd like to chat about growth rates, etc .
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Donny" <donny039 at wowway.com>
> To: "The Crocodilian List" <croclist at lists.gatorhole.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 12:41 AM
> Subject: Re: CROCLIST: USFWS to Reclassify Crocodylus acutus
>
>
> > yes, its also odd that there is no "special rule" .... there has been a
> > special rule applied to all other crocodilian down listing: American
> > Alligator, Saltwater Crocodile (Aus/png populations), Nile Crocodile,
> > Yacare
> > Caiman.
> >
> > The Yacare special rule also covered the up listing of the Common Caiman
> > (crocodilus and fuscus).
> >
> > The threatened status will more easily allow for export permits and
> > interstate transportation permits for live specimens to be issued. But
> > normally parts, products and live specimens are addressed in the special
> > rule.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Donny
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Steve Grenard" <sgrenard at si.rr.com>
> > To: "The Crocodilian List" <croclist at lists.gatorhole.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:31 PM
> > Subject: RE: CROCLIST: USFWS to Reclassify Crocodylus acutus
> >
> >
> >> I saw that including the final rule which I just posted. It is odd that
> >> according to the account posted they are accepting
> >> comments until May 23rd and requests for hearing up to May 9th,2007.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: croclist-bounces at lists.gatorhole.com
> >> [mailto:croclist-bounces at lists.gatorhole.com]On Behalf Of Donny
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:29 PM
> >> To: The Crocodilian List
> >> Subject: Re: CROCLIST: USFWS to Reclassify Crocodylus acutus
> >>
> >>
> >> The USFWS has already updated the status of C. acutus to Threatened on
> > there
> >> website, although I believe the lowered status is not official until
> >> 04/14/2007
> >>
> >> I see no "special rules" being implicated for this species under the
> >> threatened status.
> >>
> >> C. moreletii is next to be lowered and then Broad Snout Caiman
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Don Tonak
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Steve Grenard" <sgrenard at si.rr.com>
> >> To: "Croclist" <croclist at lists.gatorhole.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:21 PM
> >> Subject: CROCLIST: USFWS to Reclassify Crocodylus acutus
> >>
> >>
> >> > U.S. Fish And Wildlife Service To Reclassify American Crocodile From
> >> > Endangered To Threatened
> >> >
> >> > March 24, 2007 2:42 p.m. EST
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > George McGinn - All Headline News Staff Reporter
> >> > Vero Beach, FL (AHN) - The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service on Friday
> >> proposed
> >> > to remove the American Crocodile from endangered to threatened
status.
> > The
> >> > proposal also calls for a five-year review.
> >> >
> >> > The American crocodile, which is only found in Florida, was almost
> > extinct
> >> > when it was listed in 1975 as endangered. The FWS said that since
then,
> >> the
> >> > crocodile's population has more than doubled, and its distribution
has
> >> > expanded.
> >> >
> >> > Acquisition of land to provide protection of many important nesting
> > areas
> >> > has helped.
> >> >
> >> > In 1980, The Crocodile Lake National Wildlife Reserve, a 5000-acre
> > habitat
> >> > was purchased, and also in 1980, the Everglades National Park
> > established
> >> a
> >> > crocodile sanctuary in northeastern Florida Bay. The sanctuary is
made
> > up
> >> of
> >> > both publicly and privately owned properties that are managed for
> >> > conservation purposes to provide potential crocodile habitat.
> >> >
> >> > In the Federal Register published Thursday, it states, "We have
> > determined
> >> > that the American crocodile in its range in Florida meets the
criteria
> > of
> >> a
> >> > distinct population segment (DPS) as stated in our policy of Feb. 17,
> >> 1996."
> >> >
> >> > If the proposed change in status is approved, the American crocodile
in
> >> > Florida will continue to be Federally protected as a threatened
> >> > species.
> >> >
> >> > "It's just one step closer to recovery, but it still has many, many
> >> > threats," Fish and Wildlife Service spokesman Tom MacKenzie told the
> >> > Associated Press. "It's still protected with the full force of
federal
> >> law."
> >> >
> >> > The Federal Register states that in 1976, it was estimated that there
> > was
> >> > about 300 crocodiles in Florida, with about 10 to 20 breeding
females.
> >> > Today, the FWS estimates there are about 1,000 crocodiles, not
> >> > including
> >> > hatchlings, and about 50 nests.
> >> >
> >> > Any American crocodile found outside the Florida DPS will still
retain
> > its
> >> > endangered status, according to the FWS final rule issued Dec. 18,
> >> > 1979.
> >> In
> >> > addition, the crocodile will still be listed as endangered, according
> >> > to
> >> the
> >> > Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission.
> >> >
> >> > The FWS is accepting written comments and materials from the public,
> > which
> >> > must be received by May 23. Public hearing request must be received
by
> > May
> >> > 9.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone wanting more information or wishing to submit a public comment
> > may
> >> > call Cindy Schulz, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, 1339 20th Street,
> > Vero
> >> > Beach, FL, 32960. Schulz may also be contacted by phone at
772-562-4288
> > or
> >> > by e-mail at cindy-schulz at fws.gov.
> >> >
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