CROCLIST: USFWS to Reclassify Crocodylus acutus

Sun Apr 1 21:56:17 CEST 2007

Greeting Ralf!

Yes we know the regulations can be hard to keep up with, exspecially the US
regulations!!

It just seems to me that USFWS should have a Special Rule for C. acutus,
without the special rule very little changes, if they set a special rule
similar to the other crocodilian special rules that it may allow for acutus
commercial activity such as skin trade, etc..

Best Regards,
Donny
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ralf Sommerlad" <crocodilians at web.de>
To: "The Crocodilian List" <croclist at lists.gatorhole.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: CROCLIST: USFWS to Reclassify Crocodylus acutus

> Yes...not sure which special rules you mean, Donny, but I am not much into
US regulations, just struggling with new regulations here in Germany..
>
> Best
> Ralf
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: The Crocodilian List <croclist at lists.gatorhole.com>
> > Gesendet: 01.04.07 12:05:45
> > An: "The Crocodilian List" <croclist at lists.gatorhole.com>
> > Betreff: Re: CROCLIST: USFWS to Reclassify Crocodylus acutus
>
>
> > Donny,
> >  Can you post the USFWS address where you are seeing the special rules?
> > Also, may I email you off list? I keep my animals indoors too, here in
PA,
> > and I'd like to chat about growth rates, etc .
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Donny" <donny039 at wowway.com>
> > To: "The Crocodilian List" <croclist at lists.gatorhole.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 12:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: CROCLIST: USFWS to Reclassify Crocodylus acutus
> >
> >
> > > yes, its also odd that there is no "special rule" .... there has been
a
> > > special rule applied to all other crocodilian down listing: American
> > > Alligator, Saltwater Crocodile (Aus/png populations), Nile Crocodile,
> > > Yacare
> > > Caiman.
> > >
> > > The Yacare special rule also covered the up listing of the Common
Caiman
> > > (crocodilus and fuscus).
> > >
> > > The threatened status will more easily allow for export permits and
> > > interstate transportation permits for live specimens to be issued. But
> > > normally parts, products and live specimens are addressed in the
special
> > > rule.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Donny
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Steve Grenard" <sgrenard at si.rr.com>
> > > To: "The Crocodilian List" <croclist at lists.gatorhole.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:31 PM
> > > Subject: RE: CROCLIST: USFWS to Reclassify Crocodylus acutus
> > >
> > >
> > >> I saw that including the final rule which I just posted. It is odd
that
> > >> according to the account posted they are accepting
> > >> comments until May 23rd and requests for hearing up to May 9th,2007.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: croclist-bounces at lists.gatorhole.com
> > >> [mailto:croclist-bounces at lists.gatorhole.com]On Behalf Of Donny
> > >> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:29 PM
> > >> To: The Crocodilian List
> > >> Subject: Re: CROCLIST: USFWS to Reclassify Crocodylus acutus
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The USFWS has already updated the status of C. acutus to Threatened
on
> > > there
> > >> website, although I believe the lowered status is not official until
> > >> 04/14/2007
> > >>
> > >> I see no "special rules" being implicated for this species under the
> > >> threatened status.
> > >>
> > >> C. moreletii is next to be lowered and then Broad Snout Caiman
> > >>
> > >> Best Regards,
> > >> Don Tonak
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Steve Grenard" <sgrenard at si.rr.com>
> > >> To: "Croclist" <croclist at lists.gatorhole.com>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:21 PM
> > >> Subject: CROCLIST: USFWS to Reclassify Crocodylus acutus
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > U.S. Fish And Wildlife Service To Reclassify American Crocodile
From
> > >> > Endangered To Threatened
> > >> >
> > >> > March 24, 2007 2:42 p.m. EST
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > George McGinn - All Headline News Staff Reporter
> > >> > Vero Beach, FL (AHN) - The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service on Friday
> > >> proposed
> > >> > to remove the American Crocodile from endangered to threatened
status.
> > > The
> > >> > proposal also calls for a five-year review.
> > >> >
> > >> > The American crocodile, which is only found in Florida, was almost
> > > extinct
> > >> > when it was listed in 1975 as endangered. The FWS said that since
then,
> > >> the
> > >> > crocodile's population has more than doubled, and its distribution
has
> > >> > expanded.
> > >> >
> > >> > Acquisition of land to provide protection of many important nesting
> > > areas
> > >> > has helped.
> > >> >
> > >> > In 1980, The Crocodile Lake National Wildlife Reserve, a 5000-acre
> > > habitat
> > >> > was purchased, and also in 1980, the Everglades National Park
> > > established
> > >> a
> > >> > crocodile sanctuary in northeastern Florida Bay. The sanctuary is
made
> > > up
> > >> of
> > >> > both publicly and privately owned properties that are managed for
> > >> > conservation purposes to provide potential crocodile habitat.
> > >> >
> > >> > In the Federal Register published Thursday, it states, "We have
> > > determined
> > >> > that the American crocodile in its range in Florida meets the
criteria
> > > of
> > >> a
> > >> > distinct population segment (DPS) as stated in our policy of Feb.
17,
> > >> 1996."
> > >> >
> > >> > If the proposed change in status is approved, the American
crocodile in
> > >> > Florida will continue to be Federally protected as a threatened
> > >> > species.
> > >> >
> > >> > "It's just one step closer to recovery, but it still has many, many
> > >> > threats," Fish and Wildlife Service spokesman Tom MacKenzie told
the
> > >> > Associated Press. "It's still protected with the full force of
federal
> > >> law."
> > >> >
> > >> > The Federal Register states that in 1976, it was estimated that
there
> > > was
> > >> > about 300 crocodiles in Florida, with about 10 to 20 breeding
females.
> > >> > Today, the FWS estimates there are about 1,000 crocodiles, not
> > >> > including
> > >> > hatchlings, and about 50 nests.
> > >> >
> > >> > Any American crocodile found outside the Florida DPS will still
retain
> > > its
> > >> > endangered status, according to the FWS final rule issued Dec. 18,
> > >> > 1979.
> > >> In
> > >> > addition, the crocodile will still be listed as endangered,
according
> > >> > to
> > >> the
> > >> > Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission.
> > >> >
> > >> > The FWS is accepting written comments and materials from the
public,
> > > which
> > >> > must be received by May 23. Public hearing request must be received
by
> > > May
> > >> > 9.
> > >> >
> > >> > Anyone wanting more information or wishing to submit a public
comment
> > > may
> > >> > call Cindy Schulz, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, 1339 20th
Street,
> > > Vero
> > >> > Beach, FL, 32960. Schulz may also be contacted by phone at
772-562-4288
> > > or
> > >> > by e-mail at cindy-schulz at fws.gov.
> > >> >
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